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	<title>Comments on: The Scams of the Thailand-Cambodia Border Crossing</title>
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		<title>By: AdventureRob</title>
		<link>http://www.adventurerob.com/2009/07/thailand-cambodia-border-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-14704</link>
		<dc:creator>AdventureRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jan 2012 01:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the story Jeff. My original post is coming up to 3 years old now, and it looks like their tricks are continuing today.

Getting into Cambodia means you either get taken for a ride or become very vigilant unfortunately. As a previous commenter says, it&#039;s not as bad going via air.

I didn&#039;t know the scams at all going in (didn&#039;t do research as lots of us don&#039;t) but they just seemed so obvious and once you realised you&#039;ve been done once, your guard is up on all the others so they tend to fail.

You&#039;re lucky you had a cell phone that worked out there to call the hotel. The scam there was him dropping you off next to a tuk tuk (friend of the driver) who would get extra money you don&#039;t have to pay out of it.

Please don&#039;t tell people not to come to Cambodia though (but educate them on the scams). I spent my first days there absolutely bitter too but it really is a wonderful country and the non-border people I found were very nice.

Don&#039;t write off going back to BKK via air too, it&#039;s not that much more expensive (it&#039;s a 40 minute flight) and you save a day and potentially a lot of hassle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the story Jeff. My original post is coming up to 3 years old now, and it looks like their tricks are continuing today.</p>
<p>Getting into Cambodia means you either get taken for a ride or become very vigilant unfortunately. As a previous commenter says, it&#8217;s not as bad going via air.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t know the scams at all going in (didn&#8217;t do research as lots of us don&#8217;t) but they just seemed so obvious and once you realised you&#8217;ve been done once, your guard is up on all the others so they tend to fail.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re lucky you had a cell phone that worked out there to call the hotel. The scam there was him dropping you off next to a tuk tuk (friend of the driver) who would get extra money you don&#8217;t have to pay out of it.</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t tell people not to come to Cambodia though (but educate them on the scams). I spent my first days there absolutely bitter too but it really is a wonderful country and the non-border people I found were very nice.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t write off going back to BKK via air too, it&#8217;s not that much more expensive (it&#8217;s a 40 minute flight) and you save a day and potentially a lot of hassle.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 13:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just arrived in Cambodia today from Bangkok. Crossed the border @ Poipet and got hit with the visa scam. My gf and I both paid ฿1800 to the &quot;travel agent&quot;  then the guy told us we could skip waiting in line for ฿300 each; after which we paid another ฿2400 for a camry to take us to our hotel, but not before the driver stopped somewhere to try to get us to use the toilet but we refused to get out of the car.

After he had a cig we continued on and the driver took a phone call and started crying. I offered him a tissue and he refused. Once he got off the phone he said something I couldn&#039;t quite understand but I clearly heard him say Mother and Doctor. I didn&#039;t respond as I was sure that was BS. Later on another phone call he was laughing and I heard him say the name of two more cities on our itinerary and got the feeling he was talking about us. (the man who arranged the cab had asked where we were going after Cambodia).

When we got to Siem Reap the driver took us to the wrong hotel and a man there said our hotel was far away and would take a long time to get to. I Told him I didn&#039;t care how long it took I had already paid for the room and that the driver Had better take us there. it was at this point I pulled out my cell phone and called the hotel so they could give directions directly to the driver.

The man from the hotel said that wouldn&#039;t be needed said something in Khmer to the driver and he took us to our hotel, which was about five minutes down the road. I certainly won&#039;t be coming back and I will tell anyone who asks never to come.

Other than that, looking forward to visiting Angkor Wat tomorrow. I am having the hotel book our bus to return to Bangkok.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just arrived in Cambodia today from Bangkok. Crossed the border @ Poipet and got hit with the visa scam. My gf and I both paid ฿1800 to the &#8220;travel agent&#8221;  then the guy told us we could skip waiting in line for ฿300 each; after which we paid another ฿2400 for a camry to take us to our hotel, but not before the driver stopped somewhere to try to get us to use the toilet but we refused to get out of the car.</p>
<p>After he had a cig we continued on and the driver took a phone call and started crying. I offered him a tissue and he refused. Once he got off the phone he said something I couldn&#8217;t quite understand but I clearly heard him say Mother and Doctor. I didn&#8217;t respond as I was sure that was BS. Later on another phone call he was laughing and I heard him say the name of two more cities on our itinerary and got the feeling he was talking about us. (the man who arranged the cab had asked where we were going after Cambodia).</p>
<p>When we got to Siem Reap the driver took us to the wrong hotel and a man there said our hotel was far away and would take a long time to get to. I Told him I didn&#8217;t care how long it took I had already paid for the room and that the driver Had better take us there. it was at this point I pulled out my cell phone and called the hotel so they could give directions directly to the driver.</p>
<p>The man from the hotel said that wouldn&#8217;t be needed said something in Khmer to the driver and he took us to our hotel, which was about five minutes down the road. I certainly won&#8217;t be coming back and I will tell anyone who asks never to come.</p>
<p>Other than that, looking forward to visiting Angkor Wat tomorrow. I am having the hotel book our bus to return to Bangkok.</p>
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		<title>By: AdventureRob</title>
		<link>http://www.adventurerob.com/2009/07/thailand-cambodia-border-scams/comment-page-1/#comment-14681</link>
		<dc:creator>AdventureRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info, I&#039;m sure a few people will appreciate that in the future.

If I go back to Cambodia (and I intend too, as it&#039;s a great place to visit), I&#039;ll refer back to your tips in regards to the airport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info, I&#8217;m sure a few people will appreciate that in the future.</p>
<p>If I go back to Cambodia (and I intend too, as it&#8217;s a great place to visit), I&#8217;ll refer back to your tips in regards to the airport.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jan 2012 05:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the airport is easy, just bypass all the cabbies and walk out thru the 
main entrance. You should be able to get a moto for no more than 2 dollars and a sam lor for 3 bucks. Pick out a guy who looks a little shoppe warn, a farmer type. Avoid the guy with the new bike who speaks English, a definate rip off artist. On any main drag in PP you can
hail any moto dope who looks like a farmer. If you are traveling in a sraight line he&#039;ll be glad to take you for 1000 riel, 1500 tops. Note the
price of gas being sold in bottles to get an idea how much its costing these drivers and learn the names 4 or 5 main roads and some markets
in Khmer, then you have got it made, passed Cambodia 101  aka bonehead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the airport is easy, just bypass all the cabbies and walk out thru the<br />
main entrance. You should be able to get a moto for no more than 2 dollars and a sam lor for 3 bucks. Pick out a guy who looks a little shoppe warn, a farmer type. Avoid the guy with the new bike who speaks English, a definate rip off artist. On any main drag in PP you can<br />
hail any moto dope who looks like a farmer. If you are traveling in a sraight line he&#8217;ll be glad to take you for 1000 riel, 1500 tops. Note the<br />
price of gas being sold in bottles to get an idea how much its costing these drivers and learn the names 4 or 5 main roads and some markets<br />
in Khmer, then you have got it made, passed Cambodia 101  aka bonehead.</p>
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		<title>By: AdventureRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdventureRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a shame, as Cambodia is a country well worth visiting, but the border crossing is so off-putting.

Even if I went back there and knew what I was doing (I half did last time as they aren&#039;t subtle/skilled about conning you), they&#039;d try the same tricks over again. 

I believe you can get some scams at the airports too, so it&#039;s not necessarily an all in one answer as it may initially seem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a shame, as Cambodia is a country well worth visiting, but the border crossing is so off-putting.</p>
<p>Even if I went back there and knew what I was doing (I half did last time as they aren&#8217;t subtle/skilled about conning you), they&#8217;d try the same tricks over again. </p>
<p>I believe you can get some scams at the airports too, so it&#8217;s not necessarily an all in one answer as it may initially seem.</p>
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		<title>By: jerry knight</title>
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		<dc:creator>jerry knight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jan 2012 05:37:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been to Cambodia many times starting around 1994, traveling by land on both routes and by air mostly. I,ve been scamed a couple of
times but for small money, maybe 200 baht. When they had the floods in Bangkok I decided to go to Cambodia by way of Arranyapethet and caught a bus at the airport. As soon as I got out of the bus at the market the moto drivers tried to con me. Then it started again when I went to get a visa at 1200 baht. I went to a few other places and got it down to 900 baht. I was speaking to them in Thai so they know I&#039;m not some FOP, fresh of the plane. I thought here they are hasseling me
and I haven&#039;t even started to fill out an application. Screw it I&#039;m outta here, turned around and went back to Thailand- Cambodia by air the only way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been to Cambodia many times starting around 1994, traveling by land on both routes and by air mostly. I,ve been scamed a couple of<br />
times but for small money, maybe 200 baht. When they had the floods in Bangkok I decided to go to Cambodia by way of Arranyapethet and caught a bus at the airport. As soon as I got out of the bus at the market the moto drivers tried to con me. Then it started again when I went to get a visa at 1200 baht. I went to a few other places and got it down to 900 baht. I was speaking to them in Thai so they know I&#8217;m not some FOP, fresh of the plane. I thought here they are hasseling me<br />
and I haven&#8217;t even started to fill out an application. Screw it I&#8217;m outta here, turned around and went back to Thailand- Cambodia by air the only way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: AdventureRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdventureRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 18:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is do you trust the Cambodian you booked to go into the country with? I arranged mine all through an agency in Thailand with this trouble, that doesn&#039;t defeat the problems, just moves them elsewhere.

The student idea could work but again you could get a fake student (which is typical in Asia). 

I personally still say go for it, just do it in early daylight as it&#039;s easier to deal with issues when you can see what&#039;s going on around you. Plus even if things get bad, they make awesome stories after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is do you trust the Cambodian you booked to go into the country with? I arranged mine all through an agency in Thailand with this trouble, that doesn&#8217;t defeat the problems, just moves them elsewhere.</p>
<p>The student idea could work but again you could get a fake student (which is typical in Asia). </p>
<p>I personally still say go for it, just do it in early daylight as it&#8217;s easier to deal with issues when you can see what&#8217;s going on around you. Plus even if things get bad, they make awesome stories after.</p>
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		<title>By: harish</title>
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		<dc:creator>harish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 08:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thnx  man  for  your  wonderful  info  ,  grt  rip of  ride  u had  ,   i  was  planning  a  trip  in  feb  2012  all  alone   like  you  ,  i  have a  different  feeling  should  i  take  the  risk  ,  i  feel  it is  better  to have a  cambodian   guy  as  a  escort   can  pay  him  30 to 40 dollars  for a  2  day   trip  starting  at  the border ,  i  think  cambodian  students  who   speak  english   can  help  the  tourist  and   good   for  their  country  too . the  cambodian  govt  should  arrange  this  kind  of services .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thnx  man  for  your  wonderful  info  ,  grt  rip of  ride  u had  ,   i  was  planning  a  trip  in  feb  2012  all  alone   like  you  ,  i  have a  different  feeling  should  i  take  the  risk  ,  i  feel  it is  better  to have a  cambodian   guy  as  a  escort   can  pay  him  30 to 40 dollars  for a  2  day   trip  starting  at  the border ,  i  think  cambodian  students  who   speak  english   can  help  the  tourist  and   good   for  their  country  too . the  cambodian  govt  should  arrange  this  kind  of services .</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Paul Wright &#124; Scouting Destinations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Paul Wright &#124; Scouting Destinations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 21:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The final thing I do before departing on a trip is check WikiTravel. I&#8217;m always looking for the same two things: Firstly, how to get from the airport to the centre of town without using a rip-off taxi. And secondly, for any local scams such as the infamous Thailand-Cambodia boarder scam. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The final thing I do before departing on a trip is check WikiTravel. I&#8217;m always looking for the same two things: Firstly, how to get from the airport to the centre of town without using a rip-off taxi. And secondly, for any local scams such as the infamous Thailand-Cambodia boarder scam. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: AdventureRob</title>
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		<dc:creator>AdventureRob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Jun 2011 08:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your story Tommy. The Cambodian immigration made my first few days miserable there too, but it&#039;s a lovely country once you get past that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your story Tommy. The Cambodian immigration made my first few days miserable there too, but it&#8217;s a lovely country once you get past that.</p>
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